What does it take to help someone leave Gloriavale - and what happens once they’re out? In this episode, we’re joined by Liz Gregory from the Gloriavale Leavers Trust, who shares the remarkable story of a network of Christians working behind the scenes to help people leave the religious fundamentalist NZ cult: Gloriavale. Through secret phones, late-night conversations and a commitment to sharing the gospel, this network has helped people find a way out and a new beginning. Since the Trust began, they have supported more than 300 people leaving Gloriavale - but leaving is only the beginning. We talk about the challenges of starting again, learning to make decisions, rebuilding relationships and discovering what healthy Christian community looks like. Liz also shares why it’s so important to understand the difference between genuine biblical faith and spiritual control, alongside her own journey through infertility and the experiences that have shaped her work. This is a fascinating, moving conversation about freedom, faith and walking alongside people as they rebuild their lives. ❤️ 0:00 - Introducing Liz Gregory & the Gloriavale Leavers Trust 1:53 - What Is Gloriavale? Understanding Life Inside the Community 4:50 - Leaving Gloriavale: Liz’s Journey to Helping Members Escape 14:20 - Helping Gloriavale Members: Night Raids, Phones & Evangelism 18:40 - Why More Third-Generation Members Are Leaving Gloriavale 21:40 - Life Inside Gloriavale: Love, Control & Claims of Being the One True Church 26:01 - Life After Gloriavale: Rebuilding Identity, Making Decisions & Finding Freedom 33:33 - How Do People Escape Gloriavale? 36:55 - Has Helping Gloriavale Leavers Challenged Liz’s Faith? 38:30 - Cult Chat, Understanding the Gospel & Recognising Spiritual Abuse 46:08 - Healthy Biblical Community vs Spiritual Abuse: How to Recognise the Difference 48:33 - Church Tribalism, Cults in New Zealand & Warning Signs of a Cult 57:13 - What Encourages Liz? Her Infertility Journey & Working for the Leavers Trust 1:13:42 - The One That Got Away 1:15:13 - Why Do Some Gloriavale Leavers Return? 1:17:12 - What Does Liz Hope Will Change at Gloriavale? 1:21:30 - Deprogramming After a Cult: Helping Gloriavale Leavers Rebuild Their Lives 1:23:20 - How to Help Yourself or Your Child Leave a Cult 1:27:33 - Supporting the Gloriavale Leavers Trust 1:29:10 - How Do You Live Your Faith Outside of Sunday?

Did you catch this in part 2 of our chat with Bob McCoskrie?? Big tech giving creepy predator vibes 😖 ‘A Warning to New Zealand Christian’s’ is out now on YouTube and wherever you get podcasts - link to listen now in our page bio 🙌 #bigtech #ew #protectkids #nzfamily #kiwikids

What do you think? Is the church in politics… or has politics entered the church? New episode ‘Insights on Faith, Politics & Endurance’ out now!! #nzchurch #politics #faith #nzpodcast #nzchristian

In this Insights episode, Laura and I reflect on Part 2 of our conversation with Bob McCoskrie, chatting about everything from Christian perspectives on politics and voting to independent media, social media algorithms, and whether our faith is shaping our worldview or the other way around. We also get into what it means to endure through difficult seasons, stand firm in our convictions, and raise children who will hold on to their faith even when it’s not the popular choice. Whether it’s politics, the media we consume, or the pressures of living out our faith, we hope this conversation encourages you to think biblically, practise discernment, and keep following Jesus through it all! 00:00 Introduction 04:11 Should Christians Watch LDS Films? Faith, Discernment & Entertainment 09:02 Recapping Part 2 of Our Conversation with Bob McCoskrie 09:42 Value Your Vote: A Christian Voting Resource 11:27 Should Christians Split Their Vote? 11:42 Political Fatigue: Are We Over Politics? 13:26 Independent Media & Finding New Ways to Get Information 15:21 Is Christian Bias a Good Thing? 15:44 Is Your Faith or Your Algorithm Shaping Your Worldview? 16:42 Should Christians Stay Out of Politics? 19:49 Bob McCoskrie on Enduring Through the Fire 20:12 What Is the Baptism of Fire? 22:00 How Do We Endure in Our Christian Faith? 25:19 Is Being Cancelled a Badge of Honour? 26:22 Should Churches Talk About Politics? 29:38 Christian Parenting: Preparing Our Children to Stand Firm 34:39 New Zealand's Proposed Social Media Ban for Under-16s 38:24 The Six O'Clock News & Media Influence 39:30 Laura's Final Thoughts: The Importance of Discernment 40:13 Christa's Final Thoughts: Endure

Part 2 of our chat with Bob McCoskrie from @family_first_nz is out now! It’s been so fascinating hearing Bobs heart on Christian and cultural matters… and his guidance around voting for the New Zealand believers ACTUALLY WANT is so valuable. Bob, you’ve left me feeling encouraged, hopeful and more determined than ever to live my life as an authentic Christian 🙏 Make sure you check out the epsiode ‘A Warning To New Zealand Christian’s’ now on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts 🙌 #nzculture #nz #nzpolitics #christian #nzchristian

Hey Outsiders! What’s happening to Christianity in New Zealand? In Part 2 of our chat with Bob McCoskrie from Family First we're talking about the challenges Christians are facing, the pressure to keep our faith to ourselves, and why it’s still important to speak up about what we believe. We get into some big topics, from the nuclear family and gender ideology to immigration, multiculturalism, cancel culture and how the media has changed. Should Christians get involved in politics? How do we make informed decisions when it comes to voting? And what does Bob think about the under-16s social media ban? There’s plenty to unpack! But it’s not all about the challenges. We also ask Bob what gives him hope for New Zealand and, of course, how he lives out his faith outside of Sunday. We hope this conversation gets you thinking, encourages you to stand firm in your faith, and reminds you that we all have a part to play in the world around us. 0:39 - Is New Zealand Woke? Politicians, Culture & Christian Values 4:37 - Is Becoming a Minority Christian Nation a Good Thing? 6:07 - “The Culture Is Turning Up the Heat on Christians” 9:39 - Why Christians Shouldn’t Back Down from Their Faith 13:08 - “It’s an Attack on the Nuclear Family” 14:04 - Is Gender Ideology on the Decline? 16:47 - Bob McCoskrie on Immigration in New Zealand 17:27 - Is Multiculturalism a Myth? 23:10 - Should Christians Get Involved in Politics? 32:07 - Cancel Culture: Are Christians Being Targeted? 32:43 - How the Media Has Changed in New Zealand 36:32 - Bob McCoskrie on the Under-16s Social Media Ban 44:27 - How Should Christians Decide Who to Vote For? 49:47 - What Gives Bob McCoskrie Hope for New Zealand? 50:35 - How to Live Out Your Christian Faith Outside of Sunday

Excuse us while we discuss a very important matter. Have you watched Seeking Persephone? What do you think?? Clip from ‘Insights on Christian Blessings and Boldness’ - out now wherever you get your podcasts 🙏 #seekingpersephone #marriage #cleanmovies #isitweird

Welcome back to another Insights episode with Christa and Laura, where we chat about what’s happening in the online Christian space and unpack some of the big ideas from our recent conversation with Bob McCoskrie from Family First. Now, this week we’re talking about Christian blessings and boldness - from why church still matters and the incredible benefits of being part of a Christian community, to whether Christians have become hesitant to openly live out their faith. We talk about bringing Scripture into politics, some fascinating research around church attendance and s*xual satisfaction, and what it looks like to keep following God when our faith is tested. We also catch up on Seeking Persephone and reflect on what it means to be unashamed of our faith, even when standing for what we believe comes with a cost. 0:00 - Coming up 0:52 – Welcome & Introduction 1:52 – What’s Happening in the Online Christian Space 6:46 – Catching Up on Seeking Persephone 12:36 – Recap: Bob McCoskrie & Family First 16:54 – Is It Wrong to Leave Scripture Out of Politics? 19:32 – Does Going to Church Still Matter? 32:16 – Church Attendance & Sexual Satisfaction: What Does the Research Say?37:02 – Have Christians Become Ashamed of Their Faith? 42:09 – Are Christians in a Time of Testing? 48:34 – It’s Not About Winning: Staying Faithful to God

Bob coming in with the truth bomb 💣💥 Clip from ‘From Burnout to Building Family First’! Out now on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts… #truthbomb #nz #truth #scripturaltruth